Rear Locker, Weld your Gears

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Rear Locker, Weld your Gears

Post by Jimny » Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:29 pm

I was doing the rear end on my project 20 making it a "locker" and decided I might as well take pics and do a howto.

http://www.lj10.com/howto/diffweld/

Sorry about the blurred pics, I am still learning that damn camera, I should have bought an easy cheap one. This one can do everything but wipe my rearend! :wink:
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Post by Smuz » Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:42 pm

Great write-up. I'm proud of ya, my boy!

I was gonna do that write-up when I welded the 20, but now I don't haffa.

Ya wanna do the brake rebuild one?
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Post by Jimny » Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:49 pm

When I was writing it all up I kept thinking 'did Smuz say he was going to do a howto on this subject?' I couldn't remember. :oops: :roll:

Doesn't matter on the brake rebuild. I will be doing just that pretty soon. But since you already have your brake shoes done you might be doing it sooner.
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Post by Smuz » Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:57 pm

But since you already have your brake shoes done you might be doing it sooner.
I got inna hurry and just put the shoes on so's I could wheel it. I'd haffa do it when I do the rears. We'll see who iz firstest.
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Post by Smuz » Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:06 pm

BTW: while we (Shane w/ Whacker and I w/ Wilson) were at the cliff, stopped and letting Wilson's brake drum cool off, a Jeep TJ came upon us. The Jeep made a left turn and went up a gnarly hill. Whaddaya think happened then? Well, Shane and I juss hadda follow him up that piddly little hill. He took off without stopping. Coward! Wilson had less problem with that hill than the jeep did. Pffffftt!!
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Post by Jimny » Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:55 pm

Yes, Yes, Yes!!!! :))): :))): :))): :cool:
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Post by Smuz » Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:02 pm

Here's the cliff. The hill in question is behind Wison.

Btw: I'll move this little blurb over to "LJ stories" inna bit.
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Post by Jimny » Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:16 pm

COOL! :cool:

It's an AWESOME day to be out 4x4'n, I did some here in my back yard, I was just about to start a thread about just that, my backyard.
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Post by tom_lj501974 » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:20 am

I was thinking of welding the rear diff in my LJ50 in the past and was strongly discouraged by some people............. :?
How well have you found lj20's stock axels to hold up this when only used off road?
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Post by Jimny » Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:16 am

I have one in my ole beater 20 and it has been in there for about 6 years and I have not had any problems what so ever, and when I got out 4 wheelin I give it hell. I have done 2 20's that way and both have had no problems.


In fact for those of you that don't know how to do it, there is a How To on the subject. Check out the "How To" section in this forum.
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Post by tom_lj501974 » Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:55 pm

:cool: :cool: :cool: .........gonna weld my spare diff for offroad use ONLY
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Post by jock » Thu Apr 13, 2006 3:14 pm

The difference in grip is awesome. I snapped two axles with a welded diff but I had a datto 1200 powering it and was giving a lot of hell ( rolling back and I punched it . not very smart)

The standard motor will be fine. I know a guy who has welded his sierra like this and that was over two years ago and its a daily driver. He says its great. no problems at all.
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Post by Eddy » Sat May 20, 2006 5:03 pm

Question: At what depth should the welds be finished off to, and how much free play should there be between the axles, if any?


Welded mine up last week, first up I tried to reassemble but welds were too high, and the assembly wouldn't tighten down, so I pulled it apart again, and ground them down. Thinkin I went too far as I can now rotate the axles about a tenth of a turn before they lock. :roll: so now I guess I gotta pull it down again :-(
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Post by Smuz » Sat May 20, 2006 7:39 pm

Thinkin I went too far as I can now rotate the axles about a tenth of a turn before they lock.
That's prolly OK. They just need to be welded to about the top of the gear teeth. Yer gonna have a little play in the shaft.
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Post by tom_lj501974 » Wed May 24, 2006 2:48 am

are normal mild steel welding rods ok for doing this?
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Post by Eddy » Thu May 25, 2006 6:24 pm

No Tom, You need either MIG, cast or spring steel compatible rods, or oxy. (with the pink fluxed rods)
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Post by tom_lj501974 » Fri May 26, 2006 2:23 am

cheers Eddy, looks like i will be borrowing the mates mig then :wink:
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Post by tom_lj501974 » Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:33 am

Broke the rear right axel today whilst out wheeling. I need my lj to get me around for the next two days as its my current daily driver, and i was wondering if it is ok to drive around on the broken axel keeping in mind im not to fussed about braking the other rear axel as i have heaps of spares?
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Post by Jimny » Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:43 am

How did you break an axle?





Where did it break at?

Right now I would say to use one of your spares and fix it today.
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Post by tom_lj501974 » Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:38 am

We were bogged in sand and i was pushing the car backwards while my bro was reversing and then i herd a snap kind of noice and it started doing one wheelers.

I would fix it now but i am heaps busy finishing homework for school tomorrow :-(
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Post by Jimny » Sun Sep 24, 2006 8:58 am

Ahhhhhh, I wsa thinking that I couldn't see a way for it to do it on it's own.

it could cause problems leaving it in there while driving down the road, a lot of problems.
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Post by samurizer999 » Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:09 pm

trying to lock my 20 and i really dont want to weld it is there any more possitive info on a locker that will fit?
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Post by stevec » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:11 am

samurizer999 wrote:trying to lock my 20 and i really dont want to weld it is there any more possitive info on a locker that will fit?
Here's the Lockright locker thread:

http://lj10.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=891
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Re: Rear Locker, Weld your Gears

Post by ervan » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:40 am

thanks for sharing
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